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Jan 22 2015

Nymphing Without an Indicator

Fly Fishing for Trout at Alaska West
Ben didn’t use an indicator. Photo: Kyle Shea.

Nymphing can be tough, but considering a large majority of a trout’s diet is found sub-surface, it’s an important tool to have in your arsenal. Strike indicators are all the rage these days, and many anglers find them extremely helpful in detecting the subtle strikes that can be had while dead drifting sub-surface flies.

It’s hard to argue against the effectiveness of strike indicators. They work well and certainly have their place. We also don’t believe in the school of thought that fishing with indicators is ‘bobber fishing’ and not ‘fly fishing.’ What we do believe in is if you’re using a fly rod, it’s fly fishing, and if you’re having a good time, that’s what counts!

With that said, believe it or not there are a number of advantages to nymphing without indicators. In fact, most of our guides (including yours truly), prefer to to fish without indicators the majority of time. Here’s why.

  1. Ability to Adjust Depths. Most of the time when nymphing, it is desirable for your flies to be close to the bottom or tight to structure. When fishing under indicators, your fly is suspended at a consistent depth regardless of changes in structure or river bottom. This isn’t a big deal when wading, as indicators can be adjusted for multiple drifts. However, when fishing from a boat this can cause your fly to ride above those fishy pockets and depressions along the way. Fishing without an indicator allows the angler to constantly maneuver their fly in and out of promising structure much easier.
  2. Lose Less Flies. Even though you can fish deeper, we’ve found anglers tend to lose less flies when fishing without an indicator. Most anglers tend to ignore their surroundings and focus only on the strike indicator. By fishing without one, most anglers tend to recognize more obstructions and are able to pick their fly in and out of potential snags, while keeping the fly in the ‘zone.’
  3. More Fun. Just like swinging flies has an ultimate ‘fun factor.’ Fishing nymphs without an indicator can be a super fun way to fish. A greater concentration is needed allowing you to feel more ‘in touch’ with what you’re fly is doing. Give it a try and you’ll see what we mean.
  4. Easier to Cast. Less ‘stuff’ on your leader generally makes for easier casting, and easier casting usually makes for a more enjoyable day on the water.
  5. Keep the Spawners off the ‘Egg.’ In our neck of the woods, during certain times of year trout, dolly varden, and grayling start to key in many egg-looking strike indicators. It only takes a few hits to the indicator to wonder, “I wonder if they ever even saw my fly?” Fishing without a strike indicator leaves only one meal in the water.. The one with the hook in it.
  6. Ability to ‘Fish’ Your Fly Instead of Staring at an Indicator. If when you’re nymphing you feel like all you’re doing is staring at your indicator, odds are you’re missing out. There are many clues to indicate a fish has taken your fly including visual takes, feeling your fly, or even a subtle flash of color indicating a fish has turned. By honing in on the indicator only, you could be missing out on many other clues to set the hook.
  7. Solid Hook-Ups. When an indicator moves, it is often a delayed indication that a fish has taken the fly, especially if any slack is present in the leader or fly line. On the other hand, when fishing without an indicator, proper line management is needed to keep slack out of the line at all times, leading to quicker hook-sets and more solid hook-ups.

Nymphing without an indicator can be a fun and more effective way to fish than many anglers realize. Is it the most effective method for all scenarios? Probably not, but it certainly has its place. Give it a try and go get ’em!

More on Nymphing

  • Nymphing for Trout: Hook Sets are Free!
  • Kyle Shea’s Nymphing Rig
  • Airlock Strike Indicators

Reader Interactions

Comments

  1. AJ says

    January 22, 2015 at 8:31 am

    I’d be curious to hear your preferred set up and technique for nymphing without the indicator — “The How We Do It” post. Thanks

  2. Kyle Shea says

    January 26, 2015 at 7:54 am

    Hey AJ, we’ll get started and see what we can do. Thanks for your interest and stay tuned!

  3. Rick says

    January 27, 2015 at 11:17 am

    Interesting article – Got me to thinking – which is good at my age !!

  4. Stephen says

    January 29, 2015 at 5:58 am

    Great post! I’ve fished nymphs with and without an indicator and do far better without with less weight on the line. Perhaps a more natural drift in current with less weight on the line. It’s easy to “overweight” with indicator. I’ve tried both everywhere from AK “egg hatch” to size 18 to 20 nymphs on Frying Pan. Success seems to be tied to getting into the “zone” yourself, maybe like a sixth sense or combined input of all 5. In my opinion, you have to focus on nothing and everything if that makes sense. I’d also chime in on AJ’s request above. Thanks.

  5. Kyle Shea says

    January 29, 2015 at 10:05 am

    Thanks guys!

    Great points Stephen! Focusing on ‘nothing and everything’ is a fantastic way of looking at fishing without an indicator. Great stuff! Thanks for chiming in!

  6. Thommy says

    January 7, 2016 at 6:56 pm

    I’ve been fly fishing for 55 years, for great lakes steelies to pa trout to western rivers…and have never used an indicator. The point was well made, it takes concentration, the ability to learn and read water and develop the “art” of fly fishing. Great article. Hope my friends are reading it as they are young and die hard bobber boys!

  7. Mike Bowen says

    February 7, 2016 at 6:43 am

    While I agree it’s more elegant without an indicator, we are still detecting strikes by observing something happening to the leader, unless one is using telepathy. So it’s really just using…..a different type of indicator.

  8. Dan says

    May 6, 2016 at 11:38 pm

    I never use an indicator and when I first got into nymph fishing I started off always fishing upstream because it’s easy to detect the strike. After fishing this way after a short period of time I was able to get a better feel for nymphing and knowing when I was getting a hit. Also just knowing where your fly is so important because when your drifting through a money spot like right past a boulder if you give a little pull, many times there will be a fish on or you will entice a strike. Hell just give a little pull here and there and the more fish you catch the more you will just get the feel for it. I had a couple friends who were newish to flyfishing and not great at nymphing and always used an indicator. I had them remove thier indicator and had them cast thier nymph rig upstream and watched both of them become proficient nymph fishermen.

  9. Manuel says

    March 25, 2019 at 12:05 pm

    What rod length and line size do you use for nymphing without indicator?

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